Hi everyone, I was wondering if I could get the next assignment from someone, I've been really sick the past couple days so I didn't make it into class. Thanks! -Paige
Just a note in case you run into the same issues I saw when validating my html pages for the 5th homework assignment.
When you create Webpages with frameset and frame, you can specify a name for the target frame. If you do this, this allows you to use a link to place the webpage referenced by the link into the specified frame. This works well and in my opinion seems to make the frame support work the best.
However the html pages that do not include the frameset or frame tags but contain links and use the target name to specify where the linked page should display can not be validated as strict. You must use the transitional validation option. pgrocer.net contains pages with the heading information you need to validate a transitional.
I hope this note helps you if you run into the same problem I did when validating.
I just finished created the pages and frames for this assignment and I have a question. Do we need to put links between the pages so you can look each page by clicking on the link? I created four pages on this assignment. Let me know we need to put page links on every page I created.
James, It seems to me that the frames was the only homework assignment for week 5. Jessica - I created 4 pages myself with no links between. I would think it is up to you if you want to have links you can. I don't see it specified in the homework.
Hi, I too am a little confused. I created my pages for the Intro Frames assignment...but my impression is there is a second Frames assignment, where we nest,link and target, correct? Wasn't more stuff added? And what about the mapping assignment? Check out Week 5.
Bret - I too, ran into targeting strict issues last week. I had links to external pages, and learned you can not target and get a strict validation. You have to do transitional validation.
Rose, Were there two homework assignments using frames? I did the first one, the intro one where we make 4 basic pages. Do we do the next one that is listed in the Week 5 section? That one includes nesting, links and targeting. Thanks
Rose, Thank you so much...I am so relieved! I was getting nervous. I did a part of the next assignment, but I have run into questions. I need to study it more and work on it.
Hi, Just a few comments: 1. It took me a lot less time to validate my webpages for homework #6 than it did for #5. This is encouraging. And I had more html files for #6. Most of the validation errors were copy and paste errors.
2. I'm a bit surprise at how few differences I am seeing between IE 7 and Firefox. However I did see one different when I used the blank target. With Firefox, this caused another tab in the same instance of Firefox to be created. With IE 7, the blank target caused a new instance of IE 7 to start up and display the page.
I'm confused on some parts on Frames Assignment #6. First, I'm confused on this: I only want to load one page (tell me which one to load). From there on, I want to be able to click on a link to go to the next page. Be sure to test your links and make sure that things are not opening within each other.
Can someone to explain me this what we should do?
I already created html pages and frames and now I'm stuck on the last part of this assignment.
Do we need link all of the pages together such as link between the pages? On the top page of the assignment, it said: Set up a series of pages where you link from one to another.
Let me know how to complete this assignment. Thank you!
Jessica, I got stuck on that last item too....not sure what is required here. I have my structure, pages already linked, targeting per the bulleted requirements, except that last one. Is anyone clearer on this?
Bret, re: Firefox...you can adjust whether a target=_blank opens to a tab or in a true blank window in the preferences on Firefox. Mine kept opening in a new tab too, until I checked preferences. Tab must be the default setting.
As for "I only want to load one page (tell me which one to load)" I am just not sure what is required here.
I created additional pages and linked them consecutively, but they are opening/targeted to my mainContent frame. Opening it onto a new stand-alone page, seems to take it out of the context of frames...unless you thought of it as going to a new site or something, in which case I would target the first one to blank, then add more pages and link them.
This is just a structure; I haven't filled it with any particular content....no particular premise or anything, other than played with styles a little.
This was just how I interpreted the assignment, but if someone else is reading this differently....I'm eager to hear. This was my question last week.
And I'll toss in my opinion. I did the bullets like the XHTML examples we looked at. In the bullets was "use an image in one of your frames" and I did. That didn't make an extra project, it was just a bullet.
I took that last piece as more of an explanation of how the above bullets should work; not as another project " I only want to load one page ...". Because of the way the samples were saying "click" on the image...
Rose can you step in here? Is that last bullet one more project or just a handy hint on how our pages above need to work? Thanks! Rita
I am having a difficult time with creating the first bullet. Then, I copied a bunch of pages for a couple of bullets and they all have the same errors and I can't see it, but the W3C validator doesn't like them. I may have to redo **5** pages if I can't figure out what if missing or duplicated and it's likely a >!
Other than that, I'd be almost finished! How is everyone else doing? Has anyone given any thought to their website? Rita
Nan, I think you're correct and I'm going to do it as one more piece of homework after all. I have the nesting one to do and that last one to do. I feel slow this week. However, I have been thinking about web sites! Rita
Rita, Re: your validation problem: Sometimes you can deduce your error from the validator feedback on the bottom half of the results page. Any chance you can see from that? Also, sometimes one little error generates multiple warnings because one end of a mistake will now make the validator reference the opening section of that tag (hope this makes sense). It's cryptic at first, but it makes more sense the more you play with it.
Nan I did exactly that, looked the error over carefully and fixed it. Problem was I multiplied the error because I copied the code from one page to another without checking it first. A fatal mistake. :( I code all day so sometimes I tend to look for shortcuts! not a good thing. Rita
I am stuck with linking on my last couple of pages. I can't seem to get the screen to either link to the top or the top row cleared. I am doing rows instead of columns and am using the command of link to the top of the page I want, but it is leaving the top row on the screen. Unfortunately, the rest of the command is working just fine. Thanks!
Has anyone gotten the pages to link together? I can't seem to figure it out. I think I am lost with all this. Even searching doesn't seem to bring up anything useful. Rita
Hi folks...this blog sure is "quiet"...where is everyone? Rita,Jessica: I think I have it: basically we are doing a frames version and a non-frames version of the same content...I guess. I think that is what that last bulleted requirement was about. On my non-frames version, I link back to the frames version, by linking to the original frameset, using target=_self.
Today, I put the links on all of my html pages (right,top,left, and bottom pages that is not frameset) and links to all frames pages (top, nested, blank, and named frameset) but it didn't come out good because when I click the link, other frameset come on same window. I'm confused about linking the pages with frames. But, I can link one page on the frame set with target.
Last bullet of the assignment is so confusing and don't understand. I'm going take break and try this again tomorrow. All the pages have been validate and I just have to fix one error on one page but everything is fine expect last bullet.
Let me know how I should link html pages to all frame set pages. I know how to link frameset to frameset page.
Jessica, I am having the same problem. Nan, everytime I read it, I think it means something different. This assignment could be: you start with 1 page, have links to 2 pages on this page, have user click on one link and load that page. I think this is what I'll code for tonight tired as I am. :( I think we lost the rest of the class.:)
I believe I figure it out but still confused and I will wait until tonight.
Here what I did: I use a left html page and put all the frames pages links with "target=_top". I checked all the pages and it works like no more other frames into same window. When I click the link, it will go to other frameset without any other frames in same window. But, I don't know I did this right and I will wait until class. See you later!
If anyone has spent time working on the homework assignment related to the use of the map tag as it related to an image, here are two web sites that describe how to use the map tag.
I noticed several questions about frames on the blog. I am hoping that a majority of them were answered during our last class. If there are still outstanding questions, please let me know.
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Hi everyone, I was wondering if I could get the next assignment from someone, I've been really sick the past couple days so I didn't make it into class. Thanks! -Paige
Paige - if you go to the pgrocer.net site/CIS44 (on left), then look for Week #4 on Right its the Intro assignment on Frames (click on it).
Good luck!
Hi,
Just a note in case you run into the same issues I saw when validating my html pages for the 5th homework assignment.
When you create Webpages with frameset and frame, you can specify a name for the target frame. If you do this, this allows you to use a link to place the webpage referenced by the link into the specified frame. This works well and in my opinion seems to make the frame support work the best.
However the html pages that do not include the frameset or frame tags but contain links and use the target name to specify where the linked page should display can not be validated as strict. You must use the transitional validation option. pgrocer.net contains pages with the heading information you need to validate a transitional.
I hope this note helps you if you run into the same problem I did when validating.
Thanks,
Bret
Is the frames the only assignment for this week? I just want to make sure. Please let me know
I just finished created the pages and frames for this assignment and I have a question. Do we need to put links between the pages so you can look each page by clicking on the link? I created four pages on this assignment. Let me know we need to put page links on every page I created.
Thank You,
Jessica Lappin
James, It seems to me that the frames was the only homework assignment for week 5.
Jessica - I created 4 pages myself with no links between. I would think it is up to you if you want to have links you can. I don't see it specified in the homework.
Hi,
I too am a little confused. I created my pages for the Intro Frames assignment...but my impression is there is a second Frames assignment, where we nest,link and target, correct? Wasn't more stuff added? And what about the mapping assignment? Check out Week 5.
Bret - I too, ran into targeting strict issues last week. I had links to external pages, and learned you can not target and get a strict validation. You have to do transitional validation.
Rose,
Were there two homework assignments using frames? I did the first one, the intro one where we make 4 basic pages. Do we do the next one that is listed in the Week 5 section? That one includes nesting, links and targeting.
Thanks
Hello,
There was in fact only one frame assignemnt for week 5. The second frame assignment will be due this week (week 6).
Rose,
Thank you so much...I am so relieved! I was getting nervous. I did a part of the next assignment, but I have run into questions. I need to study it more and work on it.
Yes, I am happy it is only that intro frames assignment.
I am up for the remote class this week. How about it?
Hi,
Just a few comments:
1. It took me a lot less time to validate my webpages for homework #6 than it did for #5. This is encouraging. And I had more html files for #6. Most of the validation errors were copy and paste errors.
2. I'm a bit surprise at how few differences I am seeing between IE 7 and Firefox. However I did see one different when I used the blank target. With Firefox, this caused another tab in the same instance of Firefox to be created. With IE 7, the blank target caused a new instance of IE 7 to start up and display the page.
Thanks,
Bret
Hi,
I'm confused on some parts on Frames Assignment #6.
First, I'm confused on this:
I only want to load one page (tell me which one to load). From there on, I want to be able to click on a link to go to the next page. Be sure to test your links and make sure that things are not opening within each other.
Can someone to explain me this what we should do?
I already created html pages and frames and now I'm stuck on the last part of this assignment.
Do we need link all of the pages together such as link between the pages? On the top page of the assignment, it said: Set up a series of pages where you link from one to another.
Let me know how to complete this assignment. Thank you!
Jessica
Hi Everyone,
Jessica, I got stuck on that last item too....not sure what is required here. I have my structure, pages already linked, targeting per the bulleted requirements, except that last one. Is anyone clearer on this?
Bret, re: Firefox...you can adjust whether a target=_blank opens to a tab or in a true blank window in the preferences on Firefox. Mine kept opening in a new tab too, until I checked preferences. Tab must be the default setting.
It sounds like to me you have link from like page 1 to page 2 to page 3 and so on. I havent done any of it yet. Was it difficult?
As for "I only want to load one page (tell me which one to load)" I am just not sure what is required here.
I created additional pages and linked them consecutively, but they are opening/targeted to my mainContent frame. Opening it onto a new stand-alone page, seems to take it out of the context of frames...unless you thought of it as going to a new site or something, in which case I would target the first one to blank, then add more pages and link them.
This is just a structure; I haven't filled it with any particular content....no particular premise or anything, other than played with styles a little.
This was just how I interpreted the assignment, but if someone else is reading this differently....I'm eager to hear. This was my question last week.
And I'll toss in my opinion. I did the bullets like the XHTML examples we looked at. In the bullets was "use an image in one of your frames" and I did. That didn't make an extra project, it was just a bullet.
I took that last piece as more of an explanation of how the above bullets should work; not as another project " I only want to load one page ...".
Because of the way the samples were saying "click" on the image...
Rose can you step in here? Is that last bullet one more project or just a handy hint on how our pages above need to work?
Thanks!
Rita
I am having a difficult time with creating the first bullet. Then, I copied a bunch of pages for a couple of bullets and they all have the same errors and I can't see it, but the W3C validator doesn't like them.
I may have to redo **5** pages if I can't figure out what if missing or duplicated and it's likely a >!
Other than that, I'd be almost finished!
How is everyone else doing?
Has anyone given any thought to their website?
Rita
Nan, I think you're correct and I'm going to do it as one more piece of homework after all. I have the nesting one to do and that last one to do.
I feel slow this week. However, I have been thinking about web sites!
Rita
Rita,
Re: your validation problem: Sometimes you can deduce your error from the validator feedback on the bottom half of the results page. Any chance you can see from that? Also, sometimes one little error generates multiple warnings because one end of a mistake will now make the validator reference the opening section of that tag (hope this makes sense). It's cryptic at first, but it makes more sense the more you play with it.
Nan I did exactly that, looked the error over carefully and fixed it. Problem was I multiplied the error because I copied the code from one page to another without checking it first. A fatal mistake. :(
I code all day so sometimes I tend to look for shortcuts! not a good thing.
Rita
I am stuck with linking on my last couple of pages. I can't seem to get the screen to either link to the top or the top row cleared.
I am doing rows instead of columns and am using the command of link to the top of the page I want, but it is leaving the top row on the screen. Unfortunately, the rest of the command is working just fine.
Thanks!
Has anyone gotten the pages to link together? I can't seem to figure it out. I think I am lost with all this. Even searching doesn't seem to bring up anything useful.
Rita
Hi folks...this blog sure is "quiet"...where is everyone?
Rita,Jessica:
I think I have it: basically we are doing a frames version and a non-frames version of the same content...I guess. I think that is what that last bulleted requirement was about. On my non-frames version, I link back to the frames version, by linking to the original frameset, using target=_self.
Today, I put the links on all of my html pages (right,top,left, and bottom pages that is not frameset) and links to all frames pages (top, nested, blank, and named frameset) but it didn't come out good because when I click the link, other frameset come on same window. I'm confused about linking the pages with frames. But, I can link one page on the frame set with target.
Last bullet of the assignment is so confusing and don't understand. I'm going take break and try this again tomorrow. All the pages have been validate and I just have to fix one error on one page but everything is fine expect last bullet.
Let me know how I should link html pages to all frame set pages. I know how to link frameset to frameset page.
Thank you,
Jessica
Jessica, I am having the same problem. Nan, everytime I read it, I think it means something different.
This assignment could be: you start with 1 page, have links to 2 pages on this page, have user click on one link and load that page.
I think this is what I'll code for tonight tired as I am. :(
I think we lost the rest of the class.:)
Hi everyone,
I believe I figure it out but still confused and I will wait until tonight.
Here what I did: I use a left html page and put all the frames pages links with "target=_top". I checked all the pages and it works like no more other frames into same window. When I click the link, it will go to other frameset without any other frames in same window. But, I don't know I did this right and I will wait until class. See you later!
Jessica
Hi,
If anyone has spent time working on the homework assignment related to the use of the map tag as it related to an image, here are two web sites that describe how to use the map tag.
W3 Schools webpage describing usage of html map tag
Description for using polygon in html map tag
I hope that you find these sites useful.
Thanks,
Bret
Hello,
I noticed several questions about frames on the blog. I am hoping that a majority of them were answered during our last class. If there are still outstanding questions, please let me know.
Rose
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